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Post by shlick on Aug 5, 2011 6:54:00 GMT -7
Many of you may have noticed that the hall way floor has become somewhat damp and the floor looks like sh ite. It seems with all the rain Edmonton has received the water has saturated into the crawl space and found it way to hall area. Plans are to remove the floor and replace with either a vinyl product, same as the steps or a rubber product as per the entrance. It will certainly depend on cost. I do not foresee myself doing any kind of work at the venue for awhile as it is hay making time for me, plus I don't have the energy.
Rubber floor 1.25 per sq/ft Black with blue dots
Vinyl floor 2.95 per sq/ft. Blue checker plate style
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Post by mcmurraymaniac on Aug 5, 2011 21:46:03 GMT -7
Is there anything to be done to make sure it doesn't filter it's way in again?
I've never done flooring before but if someone is there to lead the way I can help out on a free weekend.
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Post by shlick on Aug 6, 2011 9:02:22 GMT -7
Well , Location of the water leak was found last night. Nick Reme, Devon and Warren pulled up the hallway flooring, cleaned and washed the concrete floor. It seems that the water is entering at the entrance to the venue, there is a crack approx one foot from the lower steps that the water is seeping from.
Should have done this sooner, the main floor has been compromised and a good 1/2 of the main room floor is destroyed and will require replacement. Not sure if we can match the existing, will do a search to find and cost.
Many have asked if we carry Insurance, the answer is, we have Liability insurance but not content insurance. Besides, the venue does not generate enough revenue for content insurance. At this time, Reme and myself will not donate any more monies to the venue.
We are asking all who use the venue on a regular basis to donate some hard earned cash with others to help with the replacement of the flooring. Other options could be running Tournaments, Auctions or other fund raising events. Of course the water seepage has to be repaired first.
I have been in contact with the landlord, the repair will probably happen if the repairs are not to expensive. If this is the case, expensive repairs, the venue will probably have to close due to health issues of the continuous water flow. Perhaps relocate, but again it will be up to you to lay out enough coin to make this happen. I will be in touch with the landlord today and see what is going to happen.
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Post by mcmurraymaniac on Aug 6, 2011 13:25:57 GMT -7
How much do you figure it would take to repair the foor?
Could it all be done by working a casino or something?
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Post by mcmurraymaniac on Aug 6, 2011 14:36:40 GMT -7
Expanding on that, Nick if you could give an estimate for how much it would cost to fix the crack, do the hallway, and the main floor, it would be easier to rally support.
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Post by shlick on Aug 6, 2011 14:52:09 GMT -7
Do you mean the replacement of the flooring or the repair of the leak.
The flooring will depend on what product we use. The laminate was and is very nice, but has issues with water. Other options are rubber and or lino. There two products will not be ruined by water. Once we determine the extent of the damage. I can price things out. Figure in the 3.50 per sq/ft range, the hall portion would be 600 to 700 dollars.
As for seal the crack in the floor, not realm of expertize. I would prefer if the landlord repair this.
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Post by shlick on Aug 6, 2011 16:03:18 GMT -7
"Could it all be done by working a casino or something" No, because you need to be a non profit registered society, We have tried to this in the past, I will not go into details, it is a long story.
As for pricing everything out, I can do that, but I need some time, I am just swamped at work and that a big priority for me at this time. Did not hear from the landlord so far today, so until that mater is taken care of, I ill not proceed any further. Overall the complete Floor would be in the 7000 to 8000 dollar range, based on $ 3.50 sq/ft. You can cheap out in around the $ 4400 range, but cheap generally does not last, but if water hit again it is not as big of a bill to replace. The current flooring if I recall was in the $ 2.75 range and was on clearance. We had to import form other cities to have enough product.
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Post by mcmurraymaniac on Aug 6, 2011 16:23:43 GMT -7
7-8k?!?!  Wow... just wow... I'll be in along with OotB on sunday so I can see the damage and talk to the guys about it. |
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Post by bobbarnetson on Aug 7, 2011 7:18:51 GMT -7
In terms of fund raising, an auction might be an option. I recall a lot of stuff was moved to storage when the re-do was underway; assuming this stuff is abandoned, I'd volunteer to sort out some boxes and put together a couple of lots for an auction if that would help. Depending on how much stuff there is, we might have several auctions over a year.
Seems to me, though the decisions are:
1. Will landlord fix building?
2. If yes, what is best flooring option and cost?
3. Determine how to generate money required.
4. Determine when to remediate.
If the landlord won't fix the building, then the decision-tree will be different (repair anyway, move or shutdown being the first set of decisions).
Bob in Edmonton
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Post by mcmurraymaniac on Aug 9, 2011 7:33:33 GMT -7
Did the landlord get back to you Nick?
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Post by shlick on Aug 10, 2011 16:55:13 GMT -7
Well Finally, I had a chat with Steven, our Landlord. The bill is large, so he will not go for the repair. Brian and I came up with idea to dam that portion of the floor. I mentioned this to Steven and he willing to help out, perhaps $ 1000.00 or so. He asked me to show him a material list and cost with a building plan.
I have had no time to run to the room to check on things, did any one mop up any of the water on Tuesday? I just got home, would like to eat, then I will check the water levels.
I'll also look at the flooring we stripped and see if it is reusable, I not 100 percent on this, but the less we have to spend the less we have to raise.
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Post by mcmurraymaniac on Aug 10, 2011 17:31:19 GMT -7
Well 1K is better than nothing but I was hoping the landlord would at least deal with the leak completely.
OotB likes the idea of doing bitz swaps to raise money, but I'm still really keen on a 'Save the Basement' setup to just raise money to, well... save the basement!
I know a venue I can get really cheap (not UofA) and as long as OotB can provide the terrain and mats I think 2K from one tournament.
We just need to know what we are looking at before we start planning.
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Post by shlick on Aug 11, 2011 16:33:28 GMT -7
Made to the venue today, lots lots of water. Picked up at least 10 pail fulls. It would be nice if any time the room is used, someone could help out and mop. WE certainly don't want any more damage than there is. Any help is appreciated.
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Post by LordVankar44 on Aug 11, 2011 18:29:02 GMT -7
I plan to open the place up tomorrow around 530pm to set up my demo game of Galactic Gladiator, so whatever has accumulated I will mop up with the help of anyone else who shows up.
Also, will you or Reme be in on Saturday, Nick? As I live close and not working on the weekend, I can check it early Saturday and even Sunday to keep the water level down, so to speak. Unless, Devon needs to take the keys back from me over the weekend...
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Post by bobbarnetson on Aug 16, 2011 20:28:53 GMT -7
We mopped up two buckets of water tonight--not to bad, although it has been a dry few days so I was surprised to see any.
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Post by shlick on Aug 18, 2011 6:06:12 GMT -7
Thank to all who have helped along the way. I have been chatting with the land lord. Steven. I have set up a meeting with him towards the end of the month. Unfortunate, to do the repairs to the crack and the foundation is in the 10s of thousands of dollars. Steven is not prepared and can not justify spending this kind of money unless of course our rent is raised to a point to satisfy the cost of the repair.
I did some calculation this past weekend, fix the crack issue, build a sub floor, install new flooring in the hall section. Remove and replace the damaged flooring in the main hall. The overall cost is with in reason $ 3000.00. With the $ 1000.00 from the landlord that leaves
$ 2000.00 to raise.
I am hoping to have a trial run this weekend to see if a dam will work, if I can fabricate some working materials at my shop before then.
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Post by mcmurraymaniac on Aug 18, 2011 7:10:34 GMT -7
I don't know what other groups have planned but I hope the club comes together for the Save the Basement tournament I have planned: thewarroomsp.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=ev&action=display&thread=900&page=1If I get the 50 people I'm hoping for I would raise the entire $2000 with this one event alone. Please please please let get together as a group and make this happen, be it with my event or your own. But personally I think $40 for a larger tournament is reasonable even without the good cause behind it  |
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Post by LordVankar44 on Aug 18, 2011 17:08:22 GMT -7
There is a possiblity of another event taking place with Warmachine/Hordes. But that will not be organized until after the tournament you have planned. It will probably be done at a community hall that I go to for our Scout group. More to follow on that. Still in the discussion phase.
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Post by bobbarnetson on Aug 19, 2011 10:32:19 GMT -7
I've promoted the tourney among the www.edmontonwargamegroup.com guys. Let's see how this one goes and we can talk about other ways to raise money when we have a sense of the success. Nick: So you mean a subfloor in the hallway or throughout the venue? Bob |
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Post by mcmurraymaniac on Aug 19, 2011 10:44:25 GMT -7
Thanks |
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